Investigators have long suspected that this man is the girls killer and have praised the girls for documenting the video as evidence. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X into the sealed off area because shes bringing Mr. X his keys. A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. Robert, I believe Mr. X has an ex-wife. Are they deliberately lying to us? We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. I saw this being explained in some YT comments to a bunch of brainlets. This has helped me a lot. Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he used to snare victims. Good advice. - November 30, 2022 Delphi murders leaked texts revealed the evidence behind the brutal death of two teenage girls who went out to spend their day off but met a very tragic end. Kelsi has been cleared. He was very fearful and it really hit him hard how he got treated on that Reddit sub. Wife left him. -- New details have come to light in the unsolved Delphi, Indiana, double murder investigation with the publication of a police interview with a man who, according to transcripts . There is no proof that the bodies are posed but the speculation of what it could mean if they were posed is worth discussion. We think they were working in a packing plant in the Delphi area and then were transferred to a sister plant in the Evansdale area. Thomas Bruce, a former pastor, was charged with fatally shooting one woman and sexually assaulting two others at aCatholic Supply store in St. Louis, Missouri, in November 2018. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. Meanwhile, Kegan Kline, an Indiana man accused of child exploitation and child pornography, says police told him he was the last person to communicate with one of the girls. The trail in Delphi, Indiana, where Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were killed on Feb. 13, 2017. Both my gut instinct and logic are screaming, Verify the statements of FSG!! Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files? He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. A subpoena for an IP address led to another address in Peru, Indiana, and a second search warrant found Kline and his father there. Two young girls disappear off of an extraordinarily dangerous bridge in the middle of the day when they had plans to be picked up at a specific time? Also its very hot here and all I feel like doing is sleeping all the time. On Feb. 13, 2017, 13-year-old Abigail "Abby" Williams and 14-year-old Liberty "Libby" German went to the Monon High Bridge in their home town of Delphi, Ind., while off from school for an unused snow day. He will crack soon. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. X. The casing from the .40 caliber gun still remains within the creek. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Literally anyone can be a journalist. I have an official case document here in my hand. They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. We believe that the running away and months of therapy were also staged. In other words, they were faked. Unless he made them undress -- which I guess is possible -- was there some other weapon used?". , updated But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. A .40-caliber unspent round was found less than 2 feet away from one of the girls' bodies, and that unspent round went through a gun that Allen owns, according to the probable cause affidavit. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home. It doesnt seem like a normal person would stay at that location for all that time. At least some people like me. Who says those videos are from him? They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, Oh, this is nothing. Summer months. It's crazy some of the stuff people will make up for attention. I see T. Neighboring state. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession. Mr. Lindsay, He passed away in 2020. Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. Reminiscent of a small hatchet, not a typical knife. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. Join Nancy Grace for her new online video series designed to help you protect what you love most your children. Thats because he was competition. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. In September of 2020, messages started flowing on the web that were purportedly between the one who discovered the young ladies' bodies and his companion. For more information, please see our where Liberty German and Abigail Williams were seen before they were reported missing by their families on Feb. 13, 2017. The state has to prove it. When Allen voluntarily spoke to police on Oct. 26, 2022, he said he never allowed anyone to borrow that gun, which he said he owned since 2001, the document added. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. John Kelly has some good information. Get real. So hes a murderer. And at the end, Carter says, He may even be in this room right now, (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X. Employment history: Unknown prior to 2011. At least two prior marriages. This is what happened. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. The Indiana State Superintendent of Police is proud of the arrest of an accused in the Delphi massacre. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. Wow, this is some incredible news. Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. He was charged with child molestation, and was linked to the Delphi murders because of his strong resemblance to the man in the Delphi video, and a preliminary police sketch investigators had circulated of the suspect. Ive looked this man over and I cant think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. Would love to join the private group. All I ask is that you say that our suspect is named Mr. X, and we absolutely refuse to identify this man. Allen has been booked into jail, but no details of any charges made against him have been shared. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. You think Im stupid? July 22, 2017 truthtellersweb. No, LK is the real deal. How do you join and can you join as a European? As you can see, the numbers are the same. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. Then email me and and I will give you the link and password and I will also let you into the new forum where you can set up your own name and password. Thats going to be very hard for him to explain. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. That mod who runs the Libby/Abby Subreddit where LK hosted his Q&A and whom he specifically references (and per himself has given her proof of his real identity) seems to be indicating that LK is not who he claims to be. But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. IMO I believe "keep them away" was re: bystanders, but for what it's worth, it's debated. I also believe 1) that all of the dolls found there were not put there after the crime but that this was an area that the perpetrator visited often to perform some kind of sadistic acts using the dolls, 2) that he was at that site when he perhaps saw and/or used binoculars to spot the girls on the bridge, 3)went to the bridge and then took the girls to his sadistic-acts place to perform those acts on live persons. Because statistically, the chance that it is a crazy serial killer would be smaller. Will be posted by Saturday, March 11th. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. He uses all kinds of weird aliases. He does not work there at the moment. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. Long, 22 pages. Here's the Update in His Case. Ages approximate. Conceivably, perhaps ~10% of men might have those nine markers. The police cant prevent private citizens from searching on their own, and its my understanding that many did. Police investigating the mysterious Delphi, Indiana, murders are looking for the person who, they said, created fake Snapchat and Instagram profiles, posed as a wealthy male model and contacted underage girls. An image taken from the video was released years ago as police asked for information to help them find the unknown suspect. A previous report noted, in stunning news, that the killer had known Libby for 3-4 months before the murders via social media. He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. There appears to be no mention of the Delphi murders or any information linking Kline to the case. FSG knew everyone in town. I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. Maybe he did, maybe he didnt. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? On the day of the murders, he was wearing a blue jacket and jeans. Also if Kegans not involved, then neither is the father. And I appear quite harmless, too. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, in a search warrant obtained by podcast The Murder Sheet and shared with The Independent, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, This grainy image was taken on Libbys phone on the trail the day the girls went missing. Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. Welcome to the site! Its a farce! Too much points to them to be coincidence. According to the warrant, Logan said he was in Lafayette on the day of the murders, visiting an aquarium. Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. Lists a factory as place of residence. Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. LE doesnt like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. No, he came up with the lost my keys gambit to explain why his car sat at the cemetery from 6:30 PM the day of the crime to 12:30 PM the next day when the girls bodies were found, a period of 18 full hours. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? One question: I havent seen this anywhere but have the police questioned Mr. X about the murders? You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. Shes also written a book and is aware of my coverage. Want me to put it up anyway? Its a dead end. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. Deer kit on waist with five hunting knives. Press J to jump to the feed. Also, there is debate, but if you look at the scanner recording of the day when the bodies were found, the local PD says "keep them away" in response to a statement re: bystanders + FBI; resulting in debate about whether local pd was trying to keep FBI away and why. He has connections with current LE officers. Required fields are marked *. Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. A probable cause. Well, hes the right age anyway. 17:50 GMT 31 Oct 2022. He killed a woman. Also stated that Abby survived the initial attack and she crawled towards Libby. They dont say where they collected it from, but thats an important question. If anyone else is involved they know who it is. Also his personality is nothing like Scott Alexander, some sock who is claiming to be LK on Facebook groups. Neither he nor his father have been arrested over the Delphi Bridge killings. My money is on an edged weapon. So every time a kid gets killed in a sexual murder, LE goes looking for photos and videos of the murder because obviously everyone who kills a kid takes pics of it and videotapes it. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. There are cases like this all over the country. So it looks like Mr. X is using to cutting up dead and possibly living animals with large knives. We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. However, the investigators have made it clear over the years that they are not yet ready to release further information about what happened to the teens. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? I think he already knew that they would be there. 2) There was a shot that was deliberately fired into the creek in an attempt to scare Libby, whom was attempting to evade Mr. The FBI has released a description for the suspect, which is that he is a white male between 5'6" and 5'8" tall. Im limited in my sleuthing skills. Underwear, possible two pairs, was found in the river. Can you spell out the name? I tend to think its a doll. Again, not saying that he did it. Four people are involved at least peripherally, BG and three others. Ill leave it at that. It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. Investigators also claim Allen forced Abby and Libby down the hill to the spot where they were killed, according to the document. Of course we don't know how the bodies were found and if they were posed or staged, we only know that the crime scene was unbelievable disturbing and horrible. BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. Please check out my YouTube channel, MsPsychic Sleuth. For the first time, the warrant reveals that they were killed by some type of weapon but the word is redacted in the document. Tell her I said HAVE A NICE DAY! In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. A serial killer has a narcissistic personality and will not be able to cope with so many opinions that are different from his, such as on a forum. Thanks, Mike! DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. It is important to note that the validity of the text messages has not and cannot be corroborated at this time. In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . Allen, who is also known as Ricky Allen and Rick Allen, is 50 years old and lives in Delphi, about five minutes from the murder scene. Mr Kline allegedly told investigators he would use social media accounts to talk to underage girls and had exchanged messages with and received about 100 sexual photos and about 20 sexually explicit videos from around 15 underage girls. I must have the wrong name for your POI? "I didn't waaaaaant to, but I didn't want to be called a liiiiiiiiar". Why do kids play make-believe? Sometimes there are deliberate injuries to the mouth, including bullet wounds, as a sign that someone "talked.". Apparently he planned this abduction to occur at precisely this time, which is shocking. Its a very rare occurrence, only 1.3% of the victims is left in an unusual, corrected position. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. I do not know why RRB is? That piece of information being leaked and generally accepted by the public doesnt do a damn thing to preserve the integrity of the investigation.. Aside from the sketches released, authorities have indicated that the killer left behind physical evidence. Until then, the enemies will keep attacking. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. The LE source didnt work on the case. Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking trail in rural Delphi when they were killed in February 2017. There was some sort of a large object, apparently of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. Detectives said that after the photo was taken, a man approached the girls and apparently told them to go down the hill.. Photo Page - Delphi Homicides. Garrett said it's possible that the gun jammed and the killer turned to another weapon. However, he added that it is not a day to celebrate as families of teenagers are forced to live without them. German was your usual extrovert, with a dream of one day becoming a science teacher. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. Stay tuned. We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. Every podcast is all about them! I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. He has since been moved to a state facility for his own safety. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. 2 people did the actual murders and a woman behind the initial plan. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. Dolls were hanging from trees at the crime scene. Wheres the rest of it? I have one more message for you. Indeed, he has been questioned and he is cooperating fully with the investigation. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. The other person involved that is kin to this POI. I think the girls met up with BG somewhere on that trail before they got onto the bridge. 13) Search Shell station footage in between 25 miles from crime scene throughout. Kirts knew those backwoods just as good & probably better than Logan didI dunno man, the motive is dead on too (his beast of a girlfriend Garth getting locked up & losing custody of her son because of Libertys dad snitching for jail time easingI first thought this was a serial crimeNow, after looking at a lot more of the detail (& coming in to this in December 21, with most of the pertinent activity already have taken place), Id say chances of it being serial are probably less than 1%. Oh, one more thing, Jim. Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. Was he set up to take the fall? Police cleared nations as a suspect. Are you speculating? They have their own sources. What I noticed in the article is that in cases of stating and posing bodies, the perpetrator and the victims are, compared to other murders, on average, older. Police officers announced about the Delphi massacre. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. Bodies are also posed sometimes as a warning or message, like in revenge killings by the Mafia and various gangs, including narcos. I just donated via PayPal. I love you and the information youre releasing! $20/lifetime membership. Join the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Why would the police lie about where they found them tho that doesnt make sense. This happened b/w the mid-80s to early-90s. Old Abigail Abby Williams. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. You want me to put it up? The family knew something was wrong. I appreciate the poster (killingvector) who put up the imgur pics, but I honestly couldnt make heads or tails out of them. https://www.reddit.com/r/LibbyandAbby/comments/n33koj/gray_hughes_new_information/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf. The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. No one knows if they talked to Ron about Mr. X. I doubt it because Ron keeps saying the killer is this Garrett Kirts, and its not him. Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime: Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collectors item. He took a piece of jewelry from Libby as a trophy thats also buried. What? For more than five years, the families of the two girls have been searching for answers as to what happened and who was responsible for their murders. Too fucking bad. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. If Libby was treated and posed differently it could indicate she was the actual target. A suspect has been arrested and charged in connection with the murders of two Indiana teens who were slain on a hiking trail near Delphi, Indiana, more than five years ago, Indiana State Police. it would have been nice to track the boot prints around the cemetery to the crime scene to the river but I would assume all that evidence is gone. Please do not share any sources that discuss the origin of the rumor and stick to the topic of the post. Neither Brittany nor Kathy is suspected of having any connection to the killings, and there's no suggestion either woman knew of Allen's alleged links to the murders. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. Not sure if thats what this is about, but if so, Im not sold. You do a great job! Theres only one parent. If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. As CrimeOnline previously reported, 13-year-old Abby and 14-year-old Libby were murdered in 2017, but the killer remains elusive. This man deserves to be caught and get death penalty. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. The voice in the clip was described as being 'not inconsistent' with that of Logan, the FBI investigation concluded. There are signatures on the document. Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. Homeless for a period in the 2000s, where he resided at a homeless shelter. Problem is they only have nine markers on that partial sample. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? Can anyone who has seen these photos post whether or not they shed some light on: Why he says they werent found 50 feet from the water. Interestingly, I had NO idea who you were (sorry). We would say it is low. An arrest has been made in the Delphi murders of two teens, Libby German and Abby Williams, who were found dead near a walking trail in 2017. . He met few if any of those girls he was talking to.
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