It's not a stretch to wonder if things he experienced during that period might help us better understand the goings on at Cielo prior to the murders. William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. !Completely grossed out we finally bartered Justin's sad sack ass for 6 smokes! QUESTION: Did you pay any particular attention to whether there was noise or not? QUESTION: Was that Saturday, August 9th, 1969. At 67 years old, William Garretson height not available right now. "Because when Justin finally woke up (fortunately around 20mins before we were supposed to go on) he had a VERY weak recollection of how he came to lose his stuff (fortunately, no beating or organ harvesting occurred) AND, HE HAD ZERO RECOLLECTION OF HIS "Bill Garretson" tag team Gypsy session! Charles Manson and Watson had been on that property prior. QUESTION: The next afternoon at approximately 4:25 in the afternoon, did you have a conversation with some police officers? You're right and good point. THE COURT: Yes. At the end of every month? MR. BUGLIOSI: You may resume the witness stand, sir. Other times, I think Tex was just another nail in Billy's coffin. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. QUESTION: Have you ever seen them prior to today? Billy was about to turn twenty and return to the heartland when August 8th happened. When he was there, he said he'd been up two nights solid {no pun intended} and he had no awareness of any sexual activity. Someone from a Youtube channel called and asked Billy who he thought would win the Super Bowl one year and then uploaded his answer to the channel for some reason. Like Max Frost said, Billy's number was in the phone book forever. Batter the accused from every possible angle. Randy Groff, Lancaster City Council member, knew Garretson as far back as elementary school. QUESTION: Did you hear any loud noises of any kind whatsoever? William Place. This person has not replied to me.Beside my interest in what I call the "lost months" of William Garretson, between October 1968 and Mid-March 1969, I am also fascinated with what Bill did not hear about 12:40am on August 9, 1969.Although it has been hotly debated, I am of the belief that Tim Ireland heard none other than Voytek Frykowski as he screamed out in the night. QUESTION: The other two dogs stayed inside the living room? He also had been passing lie detector tests. ANSWER: I told him to be quiet. He was COMPLETELY passed out and, loudly snoring when we came upon himhowever, he wasn't alone!! Were you wearing a jacket? Single mother. ANSWER: Yes. I never will. In 1964 she met hairstylist Jay Sebring, who had recently separated from his wife. No electric clocks in the guest house. QUESTION: Did they leave the house at all during the night or did they stay with you the entire night? You are ordered to return Monday, Mr. Garretson. If I think I remember something, I'll fact-check it just to make sure, and then proceed from there.When it comes to this case, I find that a fairly common occurrence is taking the tiniest point or anomaly and making the most of it. QUESTION: When you discovered that the line was dead, or it sounded dead when you put it to your ear, did you attempt to investigate the cause of the disorder? If you live near any kind of mountain/valley situation, pay a visit and give it a go - it's quite surprising. Perhaps they were afraid they may have had to take care of Rudi's dogs if Bill wound up in jail.I have attempted to contact one girl that Bill was reported to have known in LA. MR. FITZGERALD: Finished with me by 4:15? May it be marked Peoples 23 for identification? And she was a guest at the pool at Cielo. QUESTION: He left about 15 minutes after midnight; is that what you are saying? Or maybe not. "I can't believe there was so much evil in one person," she said. QUESTION: Did they bark any more than usual that night? His wife is granted the divorce on the grounds of gross neglect and extreme cruelty. QUESTION: You have never been to Spahn Movie Ranch? There has been nothing to suggest that Garretson's homosexual experiences extended any further than this. QUESTION: In addition to caring for Mr. Altobellis dogs, did you have any other duties? QUESTION: Did you hear any screams or hollers or yells that evening? When questioned, Garretson said he was unaware of the murders until police burst into his bedroom and led him to the bloody bodies of Frokowski and Abigail Folger, lying on the lawn, and Steven Parent, slumped over the wheel of his car. QUESTION: Do you recall what the records were? William Daniels and Bonnie Bartlett Daniels. Has never stopped. I have always believed that Garrettson travelled from Ohio to Los Angeles on a train. he was or anything. Justin was a scrawny but tough little reprobate and, he was almost ALWAYS a dream to manage on the road. Sandymount Strand! Thanks for the time you spend crafting your pieces, GreenWhite, and may the ink in your pen never run dry. Pete - Funny and succinct. A newspaper article about her death described her as popular in town. son. Or spit him back to Ohio after shattering his mind. Whatever he knew,he took it with him.You get picked up hitchhiking and a day later your living in the guest house,starring at the hollywood sign.Must have really kept that pool clean.He saw the lifestyle of our hollywood elites.He knew not to talk too much. https://www.mansonfamily.net/. At 59, he is a big-rig truck driver. MR. BUGLIOSI: Your Honor, may I put an X there and mark it stereo?. QUESTION: Is there a #4 on the volume control? I could not distinguish if he was barking any louder than he generally was any other night. QUESTION: Police officers asked you about what you had heard or seen on Friday night and Saturday morning, August 8th and 9th? Was Billy possibly a naive rumpkin who thought he could go to Hollywood and become the next Steve McQueen? Second, "Off to another aunt and uncle." Torque said Bill Garretson did get charged for posession of marijuana in LATorque, do you remember where you read that? "I'm pretty much brain dead and, crippled by kidney stones and, the relentless insomnia that accompanies the BRUTAL stabby Tex shots to my lower back and side socut me a wee bit of slack here buuuuutI am sure that I read a dialogue from the "Patty" that was in the small group of acquaintances of Garretson's who nicked a bottle or two of ? ANSWER: Yes, there is. Parent was the first one killed, shot by Watson in the driver's seat of his car after visiting the guest house to see William Garretson, the property caretaker, to see if he wanted to buy a piece . Apologies, Glenna was indeed married before Uncle Bill. MR. BUGLIOSI: May I mark this guest house, Your Honor? QUESTION: Do you remember the day, August 8th, 1969, a Friday? Like that awful Hillbilly Elegy traitor author to the Scots-Irish, the reincarnate Flavius Josephus of the hollers, I now believe Charlie exploited and caricature'd our massive, migratory blob for his own benefit every time he opened his mouth about us. Remembering their son, Derrsaid she thought her son would be in theatre or an actor if he were still alive. QUESTION: Mr. Garretson, would you state again your business and occupation during the months of July and August of 1969? He awoke to the sound of police activity, and learned of the murders when he saw the bodies of three of the victims on the grass outside the home. ANSWER: In mid-March until the incident occurred. I'm pretty sure I'll never forget your story. ANSWER: I am not sure. According to our Database, He has no children. Do you recog- We hitched or walked everywhere, everyone did. And lest I forget. Seriously. I dont know. Okay, you got me. I never heard of a single religious grandmother who'd be down with all that, especially not a Protestant. ANSWER: No. Bill Nelson in a Bruce Davis mask? I didn't catch Charlie in anything case-related but I was able to verify his unreliableness as a witness to myself in print. I know the story as it's told has Billy thumbing a ride to California sometime in 1968, but we are unable to produce an Ohio address for him between late spring of 1967 and early 1970. QUESTION: Did the dogs ever bark when the visitor was entering the gate of the Tate residence? Actually we (or Bill at least) was in a place called the 1960s', where hitch-hiking was regarded as a pretty normal way to get around for many young people. He's on a little hill with his mom, framed by the forest around them, and watching the sun rise and set every day. I mean the main house. And also was not from Lancaster. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 17 for identification, Mr. Garretson, and draw your attention to the passengers side of the car. I have a friend who is a flower wholesaler. ANSWER: I think it is a clock radio that he had brought with him. MR. STOVITZ: Would Your Honor order this witness back for Monday, please? ANSWER: No. QUESTION: Did it appear to you that Sebring was a frequent visitor at the location? Did Ms. Chapman and the gardener brothers also take dips? None of Billy's few interviews asked the questions I would call the necessary questions. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. He was released a few days later. I've long thought my next door neighbor is related to Charlie somehow. QUESTION: Is the button near the telephone pole where I am pointing now? QUESTION: Do you have a volume control on that stereo? Jealousy probably. I mean, conversation with other people. Could Billy have been deliberately placed at Cielo as an informant?How Garretson got the job is irrelevant and therefore a distraction and it was important, especially so early in the trial {I think he was the third witness}, not to entertain things that could get any juror's mind wandering.Later in the trial, when Rudi Altobelli is on the stand, both Bugliosi and Ronald Hughes question him a bit on the hiring of Bill Garretson. This is not an unusual phenomena at all. ANSWER: I think I was laying out in the sun, Im not sure. QUESTION: And then you were released from custody? ANSWER: They would start to barking well, it would take about 6 seconds before the visitor would come to the door. At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objection on the grounds of being outside of the scope of foundation.Although I cannot presently recall the source, Bill was said to have a 1968 Chevy Camaro parked back home in Lancaster as he set out to hitch across America in October 1968. Lt Burdick asks who the sex that Bill says he's had was with, and Bill then goes on to relate the tale of the sleeping booty. Did he talk to you, in other words? Garretson polygraph interview - "I used to have a '68 camaro when i lived in Ohio, but i sold it before i came out to california". He was sent there after several incidents at other detention facilities and described as cooperative while atthe prison. There's no man hanging around to give Billy his name and then abandon him. ANSWER: Well, I usually get up around 1:00 pm in the afternoon . Three wives is deeper than any closet I've ever heard of in the secular world. I would've starved to death. They shared an apartment an hour from the airport in Columbus. Criminal penalty. Donna Jean never gets no love. Garrison really suffered trauma. ANSWER: I didnt wind them, no. Did he start out at a primo cruisin' spot after making the decision he could do that type of work and thus accelerated his journey to the Cielo guesthouse? QUESTION: And did you see numerous visitors at the location of the main house during the months of March, April, May, June, July of 1969? THE COURT: Overruled, you may answer that. Everything said about sex with another man is related to that one happenstance. Before we get motoring, I want to assert that one indisputable truth in this whole big Charles Manson milieu is that the road is littered with children no one gave a shit about and often hurt. So, how much is William Garretson worth at the age of 67 years old? ANSWER: No. It turned out the firecrackers were gunshots. "He never had the chance to see the good and that's what's wrong with the prisoners in prison and the jail," she said. QUESTION: Do you recall whether the windows in the guest house were open or closed on the evening of the 8th? You know already that no one escapes this darkness unscathed. And then move into Cielo Drive (albeit the not air-conditioned guest house) with the property owner who also btw runs around town with Hollywood stars? View popular celebrities life details, birth signs and real ages. If you haven't read the Bill (and one post labeled William) Garretson posts on the right, you should. It is clearly him that makes that connection. MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here a closer-up photograph showing the front side of the residence. You can drop a pedantic bootstraps lecture below if you wish but you won't change my mind. Mr. Bugliosi suggested I approach the bench before I ask the impeaching question. There appears to be an object there on the seat. QUESTION: And you have been there ever since? Just the two of them perfectly together. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. He is currently single. After testifying in the Manson family trials in 1970, William ended up moving back to his hometown of Lancaster, Ohio. Something like that. QUESTION: Lets stretch it and say Ireland is Europe. QUESTION: And I take it you were paid a salary, correct? Spouse. MR. BUGLIOSI: May I put another X and mark it couch, Your Honor? QUESTION: And you had a TV dinner in the other? ANSWER: I wrote a few letters and listened to the stereo. Although she didn't know him well in school, she described him as a sweet boy, who was kind and quiet. Why I shouldn't eat this or that, what about on Saturday though, basic stuff. He was the caretaker of the Polanski residence, 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon. THE COURT: We still have 2 or 3 minutes, if you wish to start, Mr. Fitzgerald? I had the back door open on the patio by the stereo. As someone with a strange interest in peripheral characters, i've previously looked up Darrel Kistler, Patty Maloney, Debra Tidwell, Roy Plank et al, but does anyone know who Tom and Dave, the gardening brothers, were?Tom, who had a Mustang, would occasionally park up by the gates with a girl. Ladies and gentlemen, do not converse among yourselves nor with anyone else on any subject relating to this case nor form or express any opinion regarding this case until it is finally submitted to you. We will update William Garretson's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. !And, that ALMOST answers your query - "I doubt anyone in history ever slept thru a hummer before but what do I know? You can visit Sherman's. Hit Matt up. . He is a member of famous Actor with the age 67 years old group. Keep the jury focusing on something other than what the prosecution wanted them to focus on. ANSWER: I couldnt really say, but it was just before daybreak. beauders saidDidn't he claim he slept through a blowjob on a train?No, "the big city." QUESTION: By the pool of the Polanski residence? August 9, 2019 marks the 50th anniversary of the Sharon Tate murder that was inflicted by members of the Manson "Family." QUESTION: I show you Peoples 20 for identification. There would always be twenty or thirty dollars more and like she wasn't what they call a 'flatback' but she was a hustling girl." We don't have much information about He's past relationship and any previous engaged. I hope you liked my Irish Rover joke in my previous post. Sherman was tough. The trauma of what William witnessed led him to turn down multiple interview offers with the press that would have given him hundreds of thousands of dollars. QUESTION: And after you testify in this case, you intend to return to Lancaster, sir? We recommend you to check the complete list of Famous People born on 24 August. Immediate Family: Son of John Garretson and Content Garretson. MR. STOVITZ: I will put a #1 on Exhibit B for identification. Quick story. QUESTION: You had seen him on or about the premises? "They never really was taught or loved, so no, I do not want to hate. Rest in peace, Billy. He claimed the sucker was called "Rice or something like that." Btw, Washington Courthouse is pronounced, you guessed it, Warshington Courthouse. He is from USA. Blanchard found an unexpected ally in William Garretson, who had been the teenage caretaker of Tate's house at the time of her death and the first suspect taken into custody for the killings. QUESTION: When you called around dawn, you say the line was dead, is that correct? ?Torque said:At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objectionMost objections are instant. QUESTION: Did he take the radio with him when he left? QUESTION: On the evening or the early morning hours of August the 13th after Steven Parent left your residence, did you hear Christopher barking? QUESTION: I show you Peoples 18 for identification, Mr. Garretson. I mostly only internally discuss food wants and upcoming meals with myself. He later married Linda Derr, and the pair had a son together. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. How many Billy's are running around LA right now believing they're getting their big break except in reality they're being used and abused? Well said. Christy Snider-Bitler, another classmate, was also shocked to see Garretson on the headlines of newspapers and TVs across the country in 1969. Billy could've been a waiter or a bartender or a whatever if he had a problem with being a male prostitute. Also learn how He earned most of William Garretson networth? You hit the nail on the head. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Warrington Monthly Meeting had been established in 1730 and many of the early meetings were held in the home of William Garretson, according to "Inventory of Church Archives" published by the Society of Friends. William was, scarily, at home during the night of the murders. He lived on the property, but somehow escaped the murderers. Ann Underwood. He says he doesnt know the defendants. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 19 for identification. ANSWER: They were staying with me in the living room. Sometime after completing high school, Billy made the mistake of a lifetime when he hitchhiked from Ohio to Los Angeles. She was executed on March 20, 1899, at Sing Sing Correctional Facility for the murder of her stepdaughter Ida Place. Her employer, Gray Drug, was founded in Cleveland, Ohio, in 1912. Or even resemble it at times. The people who served in Vietnam did so before their time in Manson land---Flynn, TJ the Terrible, etc. QUESTION: When you arrived back at the premises did you notice any telephone wires on top of the gate or on the ground or anything like that? "Garretson also let friends stay at the guest house. He met property owner Rudy Altobelli the previous spring and Altobelli invited Garretson to stay in the guesthouse and work as the caretaker. What did he do, and how did he support himself? QUESTION: What woke you up, the police or the dogs? QUESTION: All right, what happened when you got down to Sunset Boulevard? There are many hustlers in LA right now who never reach those heights. When Mrs. Polanski came back, yes, it was there. 3. QUESTION: if you were standing at the door that you usually go in and out of, can you hear people in the area of the pool? He said so in his testimony. Billy possibly had one lucky day in his entire life and you know when I mean. QUESTION: Without telling me what he said, did Mr. Parent ask you well, without telling me the nature what was said in the conversation, did you have a discussion with Mr. Parent He is not dating anyone. QUESTION: What happened after you made those purchases? The 2 Gypsy women offered the same kind of "hospitality" to ALL 5 OF US in exchange for his release! ANSWER: Well, they kept accurate time if I would wind them up. He said to try to always travel in numbers and, to graciously decline any offers of complimentary beverages or, food (roofies, drugs, kidnapping risk and, even the possibility of organ harvesting!We had 6 hours to kill before we had to be back at the venue to share in a communal meal and, sound check before we had another 3 hour break before we had to play. QUESTION: About what time did he make a phone call? The little boy his mom called so gentle he wouldn't hunt or fish because he didn't want to hurt animals, and the best advocate that little boy ever had. I didnt keep track who came in and who left. Along with so many other individuals in this story, it helps me to better understand the environment in which these people found themselves.Brownrice, agreed. May it be marked Peoples 18 for identification? "When I saw on TV they'd arrested Bill, I was flabbergasted because I couldn't believe it. How and why were you staying up all night every night? Dave, who was married, bought Garretson beer on several occasions leading up to the murders, so that Bill would let him use the guesthouse to entertain his girlfriend. "Of course, I also thought he didn't participate in that himself, he just gave orders. While I've never considered myself a Charlie apologist, I've often defended him based on my perception of his childhood. Kids from Lancaster are tough. He was appointed overseer of the New Castle (Quaker) Friends' Meeting May 2, 1726. view all 11 Casparus "John" Garretson's Timeline Police tried to hold onto him for as long as possible as they had absolutely no other leads and he was the only person found alive on the premises. Learn How rich is He in this year and how He spends money? Im not sure. Somewhat related, when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob tale. Like a lot of his stories, I discovered that Charlie's tales of his upbringing don't always closely match up with the historical record. QUESTION: Is the guest house air conditioned? QUESTION: Does this appear to be where you lived on the premises? I think maybe you are confusing your cognitions with some sort of notion about "the truth.". MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here another photograph, Your Honor, showing the interior of what appears to be a living room of a residence. QUESTION: Mr. Garretson, do you recall having a conversation with officers of the Los Angeles Police Department on or about August the 10th, 1969, at Parker Center, which is located at 150 Sorry, $300-$500 range in today's money Billy remained in California for a full week after the police release him before returning home to Ohio. The orders are so large that my friend's company delivers in a big diesel reefer truck that typically backs onto loading docks. QUESTION: Do you recall when she came back? Death: February 04, 1810 (71) Adams, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, United States. . Two were my parents (rimshot). After that, Google took me to her obituary. They were more or less convinced that they had the person who committed the murders: me. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. QUESTION: During what period of time did you live at that address? Bill Garretson, on the other hand, hears nothing of the scream from the guesthouse, even though he is but a few yards away. By using this site you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Let's move on to August 9th. Every young person loves living at home after they become adults. A couple thousand?
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